IC w10 Oral
- HildeMaassen
- Mar 30, 2020
- 5 min read
Updated: Aug 15, 2020
Handed in my oral in time, didn't place the references in the movie,
What I did was writing the drift text for the essay that is the oral.
I know I made it to long, but 10 minutes is 1500 words and the essay is suposed to be 2000 words. Hope it will not get boring. Thought about using speech on my computer instead of my voice. (References at the bottom)
Some of the feedback:
Ilya:
Giving useful feedback is even harder than making my presentation! Which I suspect others feel too as, so far, there is a lack of feedback but many presentations here.
My respons:
Thank you Ilya, I get the problem of giving solide feedback. I feel the same. How to tell it in a good way. Seeing the great oral of Mark Crean I wonder if I have enough "photographers language" in it, he is very good at that.
James:
Great background introduction to the project, the context and the science behind it.
The Ansel Adams quotes are great and it surprised me that he appeared but the relevance to your project makes total sense.
Your contextual referencing of other practitioners is really strong and the way you weave them into a relationship with your own practice is very clear and strengthens my understanding of where you are coming from in your work (and thank you for introducing me to Dibbets, I love the quote 'the soul of art must be experimenting'.
I empathise with your need to find ways to show the vast amount of work you have created, and the challenge of that and how you might resolve it (e.g. cloud atlas) is a really interesting part of this presentation - 'kill your darlings' is probably something we all need to remember from time to time especially myself ;-)
My response
Thank you
Marcel
you give comprehensive information about the scientific and environmental background of your project. Together with the pictures you show, this gives a complete picture.
You have a strong connection to science and explain your approach and the different techniques of visualising your theme very good.
Mentioning Richard Misrachs work fits into your presentation.
Your idea of presenting the project as an installation is a good idea from my point of view, because the threedimensionality of your images could be used to create 3d-models/prints presented in an exhibition.
Usage of 3d-printing could also be a way to "expand" a book on your subject in the third dimension. I don't know if this is understandable, as an example, the bump map could be printed in 3d as a relief and mounted on the cover of a book.
My response
Placing the 3D on the cover is a great idea. I also love the solution in this book curated by Stephan Vanfleteren (I am a big fan of this photographer, his work and his personality). The book is about Eddy Merxx a Belgium cyclisch. The small bottles contain water, pebbles, sand, all of which are collected in 12 special places for Merxx. From a river where he got off on the way to drink water, the place where he drove into a ravine, and ....
Dean
I love this project, it's got to be the most interesting of all. I found the language difficult but thats just me, it made me want to investigate more so thats a good thing. I can't see where you can add more to the LO's and can't wait to see them big in a gallery one day.
My response
I knew my statement was not perfect; even thought about letting it speak into the computer
Bekkie
Hilde I am only half way through so not commenting on the LO yet, but you're presentation just made me think of this installation piece I saw at Banksy's Dismaland a few years back when we went. http://dismaland.co.uk
My response
I found the image and looked for the intent whick is kind of what is stated in my essay: clouds look beautyful but our mind know different.
The Intent The ephemeral beauty of a mushroom cloud is frightening, how it floats for a minute, delicate and blooming, yet remains chaotic and utterly destructive. We experience a contradiction between what our eyes enjoy and what our mind knows. It is this conflicted experience Dietrich Wegner’s work strives to evoke in a viewer in order that we will have a sparked curiosity and unstable assumptions.

Source
WEGNER, Dietrich. 2015. Banksy's Dismaland Available at: http://dismaland.co.uk
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